Comments on: Contested Territories http://www.spaceandculture.org/2007/02/01/contested-territories-2/ Welcome to Space and Culture - the international journal and weblog dedicated to social spaces of all kinds. Sun, 16 Oct 2011 20:07:05 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: r0mu1o http://www.spaceandculture.org/2007/02/01/contested-territories-2/comment-page-1/#comment-245 r0mu1o Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:12:00 +0000 http://www.spaceandculture.org/?p=614#comment-245 oh well. i suppose you've moved on. in any case, i'd note that u.s. strategy in baghdad is headed for a spatial reorientation: away from emphasis on having a big forward base from which units operate, to a new effort to establish and hold small outposts distributed beyond the central base. makes sense in principle. <br/><br/>strategy in all fields is an art of relating ends and means. and a lot of that is about space and time orientations. and "space" is still about "stocks" as well as "flows" in the network age. oh well. i suppose you’ve moved on. in any case, i’d note that u.s. strategy in baghdad is headed for a spatial reorientation: away from emphasis on having a big forward base from which units operate, to a new effort to establish and hold small outposts distributed beyond the central base. makes sense in principle.

strategy in all fields is an art of relating ends and means. and a lot of that is about space and time orientations. and “space” is still about “stocks” as well as “flows” in the network age.

]]> By: r0mu1o http://www.spaceandculture.org/2007/02/01/contested-territories-2/comment-page-1/#comment-243 r0mu1o Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:52:00 +0000 http://www.spaceandculture.org/?p=614#comment-243 "space of flows idea" as seen in S&C issue 1? i don't have access. may i ask you for quick elaboration? is it similar to what i've seen by/in castells? <br/><br/>i'd suppose the idea is about spaces that are defined more by flows going through them, than by fixed structures within them? <br/><br/>this is a back-burner interest for me, so i am far from up on thinking about it. and i'm just wandering around on it for now. but i'd like to be able toss around some ideas and observations now and then. “space of flows idea” as seen in S&C issue 1? i don’t have access. may i ask you for quick elaboration? is it similar to what i’ve seen by/in castells?

i’d suppose the idea is about spaces that are defined more by flows going through them, than by fixed structures within them?

this is a back-burner interest for me, so i am far from up on thinking about it. and i’m just wandering around on it for now. but i’d like to be able toss around some ideas and observations now and then.

]]> By: Rob http://www.spaceandculture.org/2007/02/01/contested-territories-2/comment-page-1/#comment-242 Rob Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:56:00 +0000 http://www.spaceandculture.org/?p=614#comment-242 Incisive comment. By contrast, notice how 'space' is a fixed almost enclosed-sounding area and even though time shows up in the form of references to 'short-term', it is divorced from spatiality. We're still a way from the space of flows idea in _Space and Culture_ issue 1, back in 1997:<br/><br/>Colonel Chris Langton, International Institute for Strategic Studies, London, commented:<br/>"The operation on the ground will create a space. It is critical that the force that moves into that space is not an adversary but a friendly component. So the question is: what happens next? A 'surge' in military parlance is a short-term word, meaning it is something you do until you stabilise the situation. But there cannot be a repeat of the mistake of securing an area and then moving out. It appears the Americans want the Iraqi forces to fill the space. Are these areas of Baghdad ready for Iraqi troops? Will the insurgents move somewhere else? Will the militias fight it out? Will it spread to Basra because the [Shia] militias in Baghdad are linked to the militias in Basra?" (From the Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1988741,00.html) Incisive comment. By contrast, notice how ’space’ is a fixed almost enclosed-sounding area and even though time shows up in the form of references to ’short-term’, it is divorced from spatiality. We’re still a way from the space of flows idea in _Space and Culture_ issue 1, back in 1997:

Colonel Chris Langton, International Institute for Strategic Studies, London, commented:
“The operation on the ground will create a space. It is critical that the force that moves into that space is not an adversary but a friendly component. So the question is: what happens next? A ’surge’ in military parlance is a short-term word, meaning it is something you do until you stabilise the situation. But there cannot be a repeat of the mistake of securing an area and then moving out. It appears the Americans want the Iraqi forces to fill the space. Are these areas of Baghdad ready for Iraqi troops? Will the insurgents move somewhere else? Will the militias fight it out? Will it spread to Basra because the [Shia] militias in Baghdad are linked to the militias in Basra?” (From the Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1988741,00.html)

]]> By: r0mu1o http://www.spaceandculture.org/2007/02/01/contested-territories-2/comment-page-1/#comment-239 r0mu1o Sat, 03 Feb 2007 18:41:00 +0000 http://www.spaceandculture.org/?p=614#comment-239 here's a nuance to note about war and territory relationships: nytimes reporter john burns, speaking on charlie rose show last week, made interesting point that, in iraq, al qaeda fighters may trade space for time: giving ground and vanishing if assailed, in expectation that time was on their side to regain ground eventually. here’s a nuance to note about war and territory relationships: nytimes reporter john burns, speaking on charlie rose show last week, made interesting point that, in iraq, al qaeda fighters may trade space for time: giving ground and vanishing if assailed, in expectation that time was on their side to regain ground eventually.

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